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	<title>Comments on: na: Mountain Goats, The Raveonettes, more</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/10/06/na-mountain-goats-the-raveonettes-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-119605</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we add this disc to early October&#039;s amazing haul: Destroyer&#039;s Bay of Pigs EP

http://www.emusic.com/album/Destroyer-Bay-of-Pigs-MP3-Download/11657886.html

WOW @ October.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we add this disc to early October&#8217;s amazing haul: Destroyer&#8217;s Bay of Pigs EP</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emusic.com/album/Destroyer-Bay-of-Pigs-MP3-Download/11657886.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.emusic.com/album/Destroyer-Bay-of-Pigs-MP3-Download/11657886.html</a></p>
<p>WOW @ October.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/10/06/na-mountain-goats-the-raveonettes-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-119590</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;^^^^ The Kills, Daniel. On all counts.&quot;

Yeah, I&#039;ll grant that.  But they approach it from a slightly different aesthetic, and it hardly diminishes the point to note that there is a second act mining the same territory.  Beyond that, others?  I mean, maybe you could say The Big Pink, but that&#039;s based on very scant evidence, and they also come from a different aesthetic.  Burial?  He&#039;s got a narcotic, seductive sound, and it could be classified as &quot;sexy-sounding,&quot; but not in the same way The Raveonettes sound when Sharin Foo coos, &quot;Your lipstick smeared sad/I adore you/I always have,&quot; before rushing to intensive care after his overdose, and pleading, &quot;If this is the Last Dance/Then save it for me, baby.&quot;  That kind of dangerous sexuality, embedded in blasts of noise rock tied to songs with Phil Spector&#039;s pop sensibilities, is something that&#039;s rare in non-mainstream rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;^^^^ The Kills, Daniel. On all counts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ll grant that.  But they approach it from a slightly different aesthetic, and it hardly diminishes the point to note that there is a second act mining the same territory.  Beyond that, others?  I mean, maybe you could say The Big Pink, but that&#8217;s based on very scant evidence, and they also come from a different aesthetic.  Burial?  He&#8217;s got a narcotic, seductive sound, and it could be classified as &#8220;sexy-sounding,&#8221; but not in the same way The Raveonettes sound when Sharin Foo coos, &#8220;Your lipstick smeared sad/I adore you/I always have,&#8221; before rushing to intensive care after his overdose, and pleading, &#8220;If this is the Last Dance/Then save it for me, baby.&#8221;  That kind of dangerous sexuality, embedded in blasts of noise rock tied to songs with Phil Spector&#8217;s pop sensibilities, is something that&#8217;s rare in non-mainstream rock.</p>
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		<title>By: zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More dark disco from Black Devil Disco Club revisiting or reworking some of his older tunes from the 70&#039;s:
http://www.emusic.com/album/Bernard-Fevre-Black-Devil-Disco-Club-Presents-The-Strange-New-W-MP3-Download/11616079.html

Not sure when it showed up but it was new to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More dark disco from Black Devil Disco Club revisiting or reworking some of his older tunes from the 70&#8242;s:<br />
<a href="http://www.emusic.com/album/Bernard-Fevre-Black-Devil-Disco-Club-Presents-The-Strange-New-W-MP3-Download/11616079.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.emusic.com/album/Bernard-Fevre-Black-Devil-Disco-Club-Presents-The-Strange-New-W-MP3-Download/11616079.html</a></p>
<p>Not sure when it showed up but it was new to me.</p>
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		<title>By: WJPurdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WJPurdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^ The Kills, Daniel. On all counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^ The Kills, Daniel. On all counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/10/06/na-mountain-goats-the-raveonettes-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-119495</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(The Raveonettes) have always been a quiet little dark-horse fave around here.&quot;

Yeah, ^^^^ this.  I don&#039;t really understand why they&#039;re a dark-horse act, but they are (in the US, at least).  I suppose the knock on them is that they ride -- in style and texture -- too close to their JAMC influence?  I mean, I get that, but I don&#039;t see why it applies to them, while it doesn&#039;t apply to other acts with the same level of slavish devotion, often bordering on pastiche (e.g., Interpol&#039;s Joy Division impersonation).

The other thing is, you often read critics these days dismiss indie-rock as being too polite and mannered.  But The Raveonettes bring a sexy, dirty-ish feel to nonmainstream rock, and they have the added tension of a boy-girl act.  And who else in indie-rock is doing that these days (whether with a boy-girl act or with all of one gender)?  Offhand, I can&#039;t think of any other indie-rock act I&#039;d describe as &quot;sexy-sounding,&quot; at least not in the way The Raveonettes are.  Anyway, FWIW (not much, I know), I think The Raveonettes should be given a lot more credit.

And this is a fantastic album, BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(The Raveonettes) have always been a quiet little dark-horse fave around here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, ^^^^ this.  I don&#8217;t really understand why they&#8217;re a dark-horse act, but they are (in the US, at least).  I suppose the knock on them is that they ride &#8212; in style and texture &#8212; too close to their JAMC influence?  I mean, I get that, but I don&#8217;t see why it applies to them, while it doesn&#8217;t apply to other acts with the same level of slavish devotion, often bordering on pastiche (e.g., Interpol&#8217;s Joy Division impersonation).</p>
<p>The other thing is, you often read critics these days dismiss indie-rock as being too polite and mannered.  But The Raveonettes bring a sexy, dirty-ish feel to nonmainstream rock, and they have the added tension of a boy-girl act.  And who else in indie-rock is doing that these days (whether with a boy-girl act or with all of one gender)?  Offhand, I can&#8217;t think of any other indie-rock act I&#8217;d describe as &#8220;sexy-sounding,&#8221; at least not in the way The Raveonettes are.  Anyway, FWIW (not much, I know), I think The Raveonettes should be given a lot more credit.</p>
<p>And this is a fantastic album, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Immortal record is fantastic.</description>
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		<title>By: jrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aww shucks, you guys are great.  i&#039;m gonna go get drunk on Early Times and roll around in broken glass.

and Matos/Daniel:  Darkstar is feckin awesome.  all the singles available here are worth your credits, and can&#039;t wait to hear that track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aww shucks, you guys are great.  i&#8217;m gonna go get drunk on Early Times and roll around in broken glass.</p>
<p>and Matos/Daniel:  Darkstar is feckin awesome.  all the singles available here are worth your credits, and can&#8217;t wait to hear that track.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Adequate</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/10/06/na-mountain-goats-the-raveonettes-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-119483</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Adequate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea what happened to APSE’s Climb Up? It was listed earlier, but I went to download it today and it is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea what happened to APSE’s Climb Up? It was listed earlier, but I went to download it today and it is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/10/06/na-mountain-goats-the-raveonettes-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-119482</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why it&#039;s emo, but yeah, the Darkstar song is a gem.

There&#039;s a lot of gems on the first disc (the one with the new material).  One is that Flying Lotus song, with those undulating, thick-sounding synths (I like how the other synth lines fly over the winding one, like lazer beams shooting above ocean waves).  Another is that spider-y Zomby track is also cool.  And the beats under that Samiyam song are like an pounding irregular heart murmur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why it&#8217;s emo, but yeah, the Darkstar song is a gem.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of gems on the first disc (the one with the new material).  One is that Flying Lotus song, with those undulating, thick-sounding synths (I like how the other synth lines fly over the winding one, like lazer beams shooting above ocean waves).  Another is that spider-y Zomby track is also cool.  And the beats under that Samiyam song are like an pounding irregular heart murmur.</p>
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		<title>By: Matos W.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matos W.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Hyperdub--everyone&#039;s jocking the new Burial track but the real gem is Darkstar&#039;s &quot;Aidy&#039;s Girl Is a Computer,&quot; which is practically friggin&#039; emo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Hyperdub&#8211;everyone&#8217;s jocking the new Burial track but the real gem is Darkstar&#8217;s &#8220;Aidy&#8217;s Girl Is a Computer,&#8221; which is practically friggin&#8217; emo.</p>
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