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	<title>Comments on: Zola Jesus&#8217; &#8220;The Spoils&#8221;</title>
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	<description>notes from the digital underground</description>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/08/05/zola-jesus-the-spoils-2/comment-page-1/#comment-114339</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love this recor keep up the good work......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love this recor keep up the good work&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy S. (aka Drooch)</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/08/05/zola-jesus-the-spoils-2/comment-page-1/#comment-113762</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy S. (aka Drooch)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sometimes one sound is enough, at least for an album.&quot;

Sure, if they can write songs. And that more than anything is what ultimately separates the wheat from the chaff.

&quot;Consider the plight of musicians before the modern age of amplified sound and studio recording, whose instruments always sounded like the same thing. They managed to differentiate themselves within their hardwired sounds somehow.&quot;

Yeag, by having the talent to play their instruments, which is another area which technology has made nearly obsolete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sometimes one sound is enough, at least for an album.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, if they can write songs. And that more than anything is what ultimately separates the wheat from the chaff.</p>
<p>&#8220;Consider the plight of musicians before the modern age of amplified sound and studio recording, whose instruments always sounded like the same thing. They managed to differentiate themselves within their hardwired sounds somehow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeag, by having the talent to play their instruments, which is another area which technology has made nearly obsolete.</p>
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		<title>By: Wisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that she covers the Lady in the Radiator song from Eraserhead on the other album...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that she covers the Lady in the Radiator song from Eraserhead on the other album&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Alfke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jens Alfke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m intrigued by the snippets and am downloading bits at a time, starting with &quot;Devil Take You&quot; and &quot;Tell It To The Willow&quot;. So far, this is reminding me strongly of the Cocteau Twins&#039; first album &quot;Garlands&quot; — the general feeling of dread, the sense of a singer possessed by some larger-than-human thing she can&#039;t articulate, the sound horribly mangled by trying to fit within the confines allotted to it.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;reminiscent of many young artists/bands of today ... who have figured out one sound they can do well and just keep doing that over and over.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Nothing personal, but that&#039;s exactly the kind of line that condescending grown-ups have been dismissing new music with for decades, if not centuries. It certainly applies perfectly to &quot;Garlands&quot;, as well as, say, the Jesus &amp; Mary Chain, the Ramones, AC/DC, &quot;Meet The Beatles&quot;, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters...

Sometimes one sound is enough, at least for an album. Consider the plight of musicians before the modern age of amplified sound and studio recording, whose instruments always sounded like the same thing. They managed to differentiate themselves within their hardwired sounds somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m intrigued by the snippets and am downloading bits at a time, starting with &#8220;Devil Take You&#8221; and &#8220;Tell It To The Willow&#8221;. So far, this is reminding me strongly of the Cocteau Twins&#8217; first album &#8220;Garlands&#8221; — the general feeling of dread, the sense of a singer possessed by some larger-than-human thing she can&#8217;t articulate, the sound horribly mangled by trying to fit within the confines allotted to it.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;reminiscent of many young artists/bands of today &#8230; who have figured out one sound they can do well and just keep doing that over and over.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Nothing personal, but that&#8217;s exactly the kind of line that condescending grown-ups have been dismissing new music with for decades, if not centuries. It certainly applies perfectly to &#8220;Garlands&#8221;, as well as, say, the Jesus &amp; Mary Chain, the Ramones, AC/DC, &#8220;Meet The Beatles&#8221;, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters&#8230;</p>
<p>Sometimes one sound is enough, at least for an album. Consider the plight of musicians before the modern age of amplified sound and studio recording, whose instruments always sounded like the same thing. They managed to differentiate themselves within their hardwired sounds somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, to avoid confusion, the &quot;Daniel&quot; who is posting here is not me (welcome, BTW; I haven&#039;t seen you post comments before).  Hopefully &quot;Daniel&quot; vs. &quot;Daniel, Esq.&quot; isn&#039;t confusing similar.  If you need a way to distinguish us -- I&#039;m the incoherent one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, to avoid confusion, the &#8220;Daniel&#8221; who is posting here is not me (welcome, BTW; I haven&#8217;t seen you post comments before).  Hopefully &#8220;Daniel&#8221; vs. &#8220;Daniel, Esq.&#8221; isn&#8217;t confusing similar.  If you need a way to distinguish us &#8212; I&#8217;m the incoherent one.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/08/05/zola-jesus-the-spoils-2/comment-page-1/#comment-112728</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Raveonettes . . . have figured out one sound they can do well and just keep doing that over and over&quot;

I actually think The Raveonettes have some flexibility in their sound.  They veer from distortion-filled noise-rock to (an admittedly rough version of) girl-group pop melodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Raveonettes . . . have figured out one sound they can do well and just keep doing that over and over&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually think The Raveonettes have some flexibility in their sound.  They veer from distortion-filled noise-rock to (an admittedly rough version of) girl-group pop melodies.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy S. (aka Drooch)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy S. (aka Drooch)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And so there’s this: a weird record made at enormous personal cost (that’s a total guess) with an uncertain audience. Isn’t that the exact kinda record we all tell ourselves we’ll embrace? &quot;

No, because that&#039;s nothing but a formula, and I don&#039;t embrace formulas. I listen to the music and respond to that. What I hear from these samples is reminiscent of many young artists/bands of today - like the Raveonettes, for example, or Art Brut - who have figured out one sound they can do well and just keep doing that over and over. Most of the samples sounded the same to me, screechy, feedback-drenched instrumentation underneath distant, heavily-treated vocals. After one or two songs it gets tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And so there’s this: a weird record made at enormous personal cost (that’s a total guess) with an uncertain audience. Isn’t that the exact kinda record we all tell ourselves we’ll embrace? &#8221;</p>
<p>No, because that&#8217;s nothing but a formula, and I don&#8217;t embrace formulas. I listen to the music and respond to that. What I hear from these samples is reminiscent of many young artists/bands of today &#8211; like the Raveonettes, for example, or Art Brut &#8211; who have figured out one sound they can do well and just keep doing that over and over. Most of the samples sounded the same to me, screechy, feedback-drenched instrumentation underneath distant, heavily-treated vocals. After one or two songs it gets tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/08/05/zola-jesus-the-spoils-2/comment-page-1/#comment-112710</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that didn&#039;t work, hopefully this will.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emusic.com/album/Zola-Jesus-Single-MP3-Download/11524266.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Single by Zola Jesus&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that didn&#8217;t work, hopefully this will.<br />
<a href="http://www.emusic.com/album/Zola-Jesus-Single-MP3-Download/11524266.html" rel="nofollow">Single by Zola Jesus</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/08/05/zola-jesus-the-spoils-2/comment-page-1/#comment-112704</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After some more looking around it looks like the tracks missing from the album are available on the single here [url=http://www.emusic.com/album/Zola-Jesus-Single-MP3-Download/11524266.html] Single by Zola Jesus[/url]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After some more looking around it looks like the tracks missing from the album are available on the single here [url=http://www.emusic.com/album/Zola-Jesus-Single-MP3-Download/11524266.html] Single by Zola Jesus[/url]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2009/08/05/zola-jesus-the-spoils-2/comment-page-1/#comment-112702</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The samples sound great.  I&#039;d be downloading it right now if it wasn&#039;t for the two missing tracks.  Any idea when or if they will be showing up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The samples sound great.  I&#8217;d be downloading it right now if it wasn&#8217;t for the two missing tracks.  Any idea when or if they will be showing up?</p>
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