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		<title>By: ruadork</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2007/12/06/end-of-the-year-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-10731</link>
		<dc:creator>ruadork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okkervill is good. Not good enough to make it on my top 10 list, but I&#039;m listening to it again this morning and I can see it growing on me. I have given it quite a few chances already, though.

More than anything on the Okkervill album, I like the duet Sheff does on The Mendoza Line&#039;s &quot;Aspect of an Old Maid.&quot; There&#039;s some intensity. Too bad Mendoza Line&#039;s album nosedives pretty quickly after that song - just can&#039;t get into it past the first 3 songs. Must have something to do with the vocals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okkervill is good. Not good enough to make it on my top 10 list, but I&#8217;m listening to it again this morning and I can see it growing on me. I have given it quite a few chances already, though.</p>
<p>More than anything on the Okkervill album, I like the duet Sheff does on The Mendoza Line&#8217;s &#8220;Aspect of an Old Maid.&#8221; There&#8217;s some intensity. Too bad Mendoza Line&#8217;s album nosedives pretty quickly after that song &#8211; just can&#8217;t get into it past the first 3 songs. Must have something to do with the vocals.</p>
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		<title>By: Matos W.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matos W.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should point out to the folks disappointed in no reggae/world music round up that the reissues piece is very heavily slanted that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should point out to the folks disappointed in no reggae/world music round up that the reissues piece is very heavily slanted that way.</p>
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		<title>By: dollev</title>
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		<dc:creator>dollev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture made me think of the Dutch prime minister Jan Peter Balkenende. What would be his favourite song of 2007?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture made me think of the Dutch prime minister Jan Peter Balkenende. What would be his favourite song of 2007?</p>
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		<title>By: m13b</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2007/12/06/end-of-the-year-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-10728</link>
		<dc:creator>m13b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;so many of eMusic’s great metal albums get overlooked&quot;

You&#039;re not kidding.  :^/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;so many of eMusic’s great metal albums get overlooked&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not kidding.  :^/</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2007/12/06/end-of-the-year-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-10727</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, funny you should mention that &#8212; I&#039;ve been thinking we should do our &quot;All-Inclusive&quot; lists on 17 Dots. The way eMusic itself is set up we can&#039;t really feature records we don&#039;t carry, but I&#039;ll definitely ask our writers if they want to send over lists that combine eMu and non-eMu titles.  I&#039;m sure Todd &amp; Yancey have similar lists.  And I&#039;d love to see your lists, too.

I love a lot of that Rihanna record, too, and I thought that Low record was really overlooked &#8212; so dark! so good!

other non-eMu records that made my cut: Miranda Lambert, &lt;i&gt;Crazy Ex-Girlfriend&lt;/i&gt;; Paramore, &lt;i&gt;Riot!&lt;/i&gt; and Against Me! &lt;i&gt;New Wave&lt;/i&gt;.  I&#039;ll start a new post above this and see if, in the words of the great Carl Weathers, we can &quot;get a stew on.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, funny you should mention that &#8212; I&#8217;ve been thinking we should do our &#8220;All-Inclusive&#8221; lists on 17 Dots. The way eMusic itself is set up we can&#8217;t really feature records we don&#8217;t carry, but I&#8217;ll definitely ask our writers if they want to send over lists that combine eMu and non-eMu titles.  I&#8217;m sure Todd &#038; Yancey have similar lists.  And I&#8217;d love to see your lists, too.</p>
<p>I love a lot of that Rihanna record, too, and I thought that Low record was really overlooked &#8212; so dark! so good!</p>
<p>other non-eMu records that made my cut: Miranda Lambert, <i>Crazy Ex-Girlfriend</i>; Paramore, <i>Riot!</i> and Against Me! <i>New Wave</i>.  I&#8217;ll start a new post above this and see if, in the words of the great Carl Weathers, we can &#8220;get a stew on.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Checking Okkervil River&#039;s new stuff out now.  I dunno.  It&#039;s a big step up from the &quot;standard, boilerplate indie rock&quot; (that&#039;s such a good description, Joe) of Black Sheep Boy.  But it&#039;s still a bit paint-by-numbers indie rock for me (which I can love or hate, depending on circumstance) and the singer&#039;s voice is a hurdle for me.  I&#039;m going to let this one simmer a while before deciding whether to get it.

On a different subject, while I totally understand why they would do so, I hope eMusic&#039;s writers don&#039;t limit their year-end best-of lists to only those discs that are available on eMusic.  As it happens, most of what I discovered and loved this year came from eMusic, but I&#039;m also interested in hearing what eMusic writers have to say about some of the great stuff released in 2007 that, regrettably, isn&#039;t available on eMusic, e.g., Low&#039;s &quot;Drums and Guns,&quot; Wilco&#039;s &quot;Sky Blue Sky,&quot; The Field&#039;s &quot;From Here We Go Sublime,&quot; Rihanna&#039;s &quot;Good Girl Gone Bad,&quot; and so forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checking Okkervil River&#8217;s new stuff out now.  I dunno.  It&#8217;s a big step up from the &#8220;standard, boilerplate indie rock&#8221; (that&#8217;s such a good description, Joe) of Black Sheep Boy.  But it&#8217;s still a bit paint-by-numbers indie rock for me (which I can love or hate, depending on circumstance) and the singer&#8217;s voice is a hurdle for me.  I&#8217;m going to let this one simmer a while before deciding whether to get it.</p>
<p>On a different subject, while I totally understand why they would do so, I hope eMusic&#8217;s writers don&#8217;t limit their year-end best-of lists to only those discs that are available on eMusic.  As it happens, most of what I discovered and loved this year came from eMusic, but I&#8217;m also interested in hearing what eMusic writers have to say about some of the great stuff released in 2007 that, regrettably, isn&#8217;t available on eMusic, e.g., Low&#8217;s &#8220;Drums and Guns,&#8221; Wilco&#8217;s &#8220;Sky Blue Sky,&#8221; The Field&#8217;s &#8220;From Here We Go Sublime,&#8221; Rihanna&#8217;s &#8220;Good Girl Gone Bad,&#8221; and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: maris</title>
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		<dc:creator>maris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr B, I agree--Okkervil is all about the passion (see For Real on Black Sheep Boy). The thing that really gets me about The Stage Names--the album and the tour--is that the passion is as visceral as ever, but it&#039;s also somehow more controlled. In a good way. Passionately polished? That said, some of my favorite Okkervil songs are older--off of Down the River of Golden Dreams. Namely, It Ends With a Fall and Blanket &amp; Crib. Sigh. The lyrics get me every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr B, I agree&#8211;Okkervil is all about the passion (see For Real on Black Sheep Boy). The thing that really gets me about The Stage Names&#8211;the album and the tour&#8211;is that the passion is as visceral as ever, but it&#8217;s also somehow more controlled. In a good way. Passionately polished? That said, some of my favorite Okkervil songs are older&#8211;off of Down the River of Golden Dreams. Namely, It Ends With a Fall and Blanket &amp; Crib. Sigh. The lyrics get me every time.</p>
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		<title>By: thomaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I love The Stage Names as much as I disliked Black Sheep Boy. Seeing them live in September was icing on the cake. I now get the hype. (But I still don&#039;t like Black Sheep Boy that much.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I love The Stage Names as much as I disliked Black Sheep Boy. Seeing them live in September was icing on the cake. I now get the hype. (But I still don&#8217;t like Black Sheep Boy that much.)</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the same thing about Blood &amp; Fire. I&#039;m freaking out a little bit about that, and grabbing as many of the titles as I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the same thing about Blood &#038; Fire. I&#8217;m freaking out a little bit about that, and grabbing as many of the titles as I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://17dots.com/2007/12/06/end-of-the-year-as-we-know-it/comment-page-1/#comment-10722</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: I hope the &quot;world music&quot; disc you&#039;re talking about is the one from Tinariwen (not the one from Gogol Bordello!).

Mr.B: I love Blood &amp; Fire, too.  I&#039;ve downloaded about 25 of its releases from eMusic.  But the company is in deep, deep trouble.  It may not survive (indeed, it&#039;s my understanding that, as of mid-summer 2007, it was dormant, and could only be saved by a white knight coming to its financial rescue).  So you may want to grab the BAF discs here while you can.  There&#039;s a thread on the eMusic forums about this, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: I hope the &#8220;world music&#8221; disc you&#8217;re talking about is the one from Tinariwen (not the one from Gogol Bordello!).</p>
<p>Mr.B: I love Blood &amp; Fire, too.  I&#8217;ve downloaded about 25 of its releases from eMusic.  But the company is in deep, deep trouble.  It may not survive (indeed, it&#8217;s my understanding that, as of mid-summer 2007, it was dormant, and could only be saved by a white knight coming to its financial rescue).  So you may want to grab the BAF discs here while you can.  There&#8217;s a thread on the eMusic forums about this, too.</p>
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